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At some point, I may learn that I am going to by physically strained by demo'ing knitting two days in a row, but I'm too stubborn to give it up yet.  I've already given up a lot, so I will fight this.  A couple of days of lidocaine patches, some meds and some extra sleep, and I'll be fine.

Sheep and Wool was fun, though work.  But mostly fun.  One thing that was less than fun was the whole "I will touch all the stuff you have on display without asking" thing, but it only got really irritating when people either tried to rip my knitting off the board it was pinned to, or children with sticky hands grabbed things (and stuff out of my basket, which was not part of the display) while their parents smiled indulgently.  Precisely two sets of parents asked their children not to touch.  

I wonder if they'd feel similarly sanguine about me banging an ice-cream covered spoon on their really nice clothes.

Otherwise, it was good - I saw lots of people - chargirlgenius, I know you don't think so, but you are smokin' hot, and I'm happy for people to think we're sisters any day - and talked to people, most of whom were absolutely mesmerized by my ability to talk and knit at the same time.

I got my mitten done (pic courtesy of pinkleader):

(The grey thing in front is one mitten, the other is in my hands)

...and the lacing?  Worked like a dream.  I got lots and lots of compliments on my outfit all day, and one guy even took a picture and gave me a copy on Sunday:

A bunch of people were fascinated by my shoulder points - they worked well, so well that I'm putting point holes in my red bodies so I can wear the blue sleeves with them.  I also ended up talking to a lot of 17th century museum/historic farm volunteers from all over; I tried to help a couple of them with costuming questions (I was grilled!  Grilled, I tells ya!), and mostly did okay.  I handed out my personal card to a number of people (who will probably be very confused by the Attack Laurel pages).

I had a couple of down moments (extra from the touchy-touchy, which is something I deal with at J'town too); one woman got really, really angry at me (in a restrained, but hostile way) because I didn't have the patterns for any of the pieces I was displaying - to be honest, I don't know how to write patterns.  I guessed, and made notes to myself.  I think she might have been a little confused about the purpose of the display, and I found out later that there was a central repository for free patterns, so maybe she was hoping I had them.  Honestly, though - a mitten is a mitten, and a sock is a sock.  I told her about the Plimoth pattern book.

The other one was a knitter who does 17th century stuff, and I was just chatting amiably about the knitting machine, and she cut me off with a "yes, I know all about knitting machines".  I just wanted to enthuse with someone who would get the cool economic effects of knitting in the 16th century - I wasn't trying to demo to her.  *sigh*  I felt dissed.

But never mind - I got to discuss economic theory with several interested tourists who enjoyed it a lot, and said it really made the past come alive.

And I discussed my clothes almost more than I discussed knitting!  People were all about the clothes, and I didn't mind showing off my new sleeves.  :)

The petticoat/bodies lacing technique worked so well I'm doing it with all my bodies - I used the spacing of the Pfaltzgrafina bodies (with adjustment for boning), and got no gappage and a rock solid setup all weekend (I even stepped on my skirt twice, with no movement).  ETA:  The key point I was looking for with this project was not that the points need to be in - we were mostly talking about how and where, since we knew points were used, but the fastening of the opening of the skirt to the opening in the bodies - with them laced together, the whole outfit had a strength and solidity that pointing alone (which I've done before, once) didn't give me.  It's all in the front.  

(I just thought I should clarify, since a number of you will be going "what's new about points?  I've done them for years".  :)  )

A couple of pics of the setup (I'll put the full set up when I write the article, but that may be a couple of months):



I also impressed a number of people with my apron setup - I tucked the ends into the waistband (like you do) and made a pocket for my wool, so I could knit while standing.  Several people asked about my "pocket apron", and were flatteringly amazed when I simply pulled out one corner and showed them it was just an apron.  I had Caemfind doing it by the end of Saturday - it's so convenient! - and a couple of other people saying they were going to do it, too, after I explained it was a correct usage of the apron.

Starting a new fashion (mind you, a bunch of you lot have probably done this for years) trend locally, yay me.

Caemfind was a delightful knitting/demo companion - we already have plans for improving our display if we're invited back next year (I have no idea).   pinkleadercame shopping with me, and (singsong voice) weeeee have something for theblueleader(/singsong voice)!  I also bought hemp thread (thick; perfect for braiding cords) from a great shop, www.flyingfibers.com, who also carry rare breed and organic wools from the UK in gorgeous colours.  They have long-wool breeds, which produce a sheeny, gorgeous yarn.  I highly recommend them, and they're super-nice people (she's American, he's British).

And, since it turns out we might not be supposed to accept money personally for the demo, if I get a cheque, I'm probably going to donate it to the Kingdom Travel Fund (or something).

Jamestown next weekend - I have to put lacing holes in my blue linen skirt and my red bodies.  *excitement*


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May. 5th, 2008 01:41 pm (UTC)
So, to get this lacing thing down - you're just tying it on normally and then popping an inner side of a lacing loop through the skirt's - wait no, you're not even tying the skirt closed to itself, first? And holding it in place by lacing both sides of the skirt opening through different inner lacing loopings. Have I got that right?

For your bodies, did you simply add lacing to the skirt (via a couple more eyelets, I'm guessing, which I'd think would be longer lasting) and lacing rings on the doublet at the tabs?

Baby's not even here yet, and it's been so long since I've made any garb for me that I'm really starting in on the jonesing, lemme tell ya.
May. 5th, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
Exactly. :) The skirt isn't even tied to itself, and because it isn't, the pleats don't do that annoying "split to each side!" thing they do when tied tight.

I put lacing holes in the skirt and the bodies (there appear to be no extant women's doublets with lacing holes at all; the place they show up in is on a couple of bodies), so that I could re-use the points on another skirt.

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May. 5th, 2008 01:44 pm (UTC)
I'll tell ya, after doing the points in the Pfalzgrafin way for my pair of bodies and farthingale, I won't go back either. No slippage at all!
May. 5th, 2008 02:09 pm (UTC)
So right. and when/if you do a front-lacing pair, seriously, lace the skirt and the bodies together in front. It works amazingly well, and also means you can adjust the height of the skirt in front.

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May. 5th, 2008 01:45 pm (UTC)
Hahaha! Likewise!
I was so surprised at the comment that I didn’t think to thank her for the compliment until she’d walked away.

I’m fascinated by the bodies, by the way. One of these days… Now, is the front opening of that curved, or is it straight and just following the curve of the body? I’d always figured that the front was straight, but I saw somebody doing a fitting last week and she put a curve in it.

I don’t remember if Eddie touched any of your yarn. I did let him touch some that somebody showed us (I think it was tattycat’s), but his hands were very clean and I’m trying to cultivate his fiber habit. :-D

May. 5th, 2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
My pattern is dead straight down th front - because I use reed or cable ties for the boning, they're more flexible than steel, and you get that gentle curve. All the shape fitting is in the side seams.

Eddy did not touch my stuff. :) A couple of kids grabbed my yarn, and a couple grabbed my knitting needle case and tried to get the needles out of it. Apparently, one toddler succeeded (I wasn't there), and Caemfind had to get it off her, because her parents weren't doing a thing.

I really, really, don't get this total lack of respect for other people's things - people were oohing and aahing over Caemfind's trunkhose one minute, then scrunching it under their hands as they leaned on the table the next. Mind boggling. >:(
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May. 5th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
Awesomeness! I'm so glad to see our theory worked out in practice as well as it worked in our brains. It looks terrific.

Now may I please go back to thinking late 15th century thoughts? ;)
May. 5th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC)
noooooooo... come to the 'bethan side; we have ruffs.

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May. 5th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC)
You look very spiffy. Love the way it's all laced together.

Was the sheeny long-wool Wensleydale? It's absolutely gorgeous stuff. Spins up like buttah and knits up beautifully.

I'm looking forward to making my next set of Tudor (thanks to kass_rants I can haz pattern) and I was ambivalent about the lacing thing when I first read through the pattern. However, having worn the Mark 1 outfit a couple of times now I figure the lacing will be much more comfortable.

In the meantime, I've signed up for a minor position in HRH alethea_eastrid's wardrobe brigade which kinda knocks my soi-disant free time on the head for a while... Oh well, such is life.
May. 5th, 2008 02:03 pm (UTC)
Particularly for a gentleman of your prosperous build, Hugh, pointing the breeches to the doublet is far more comfortable. The waistband floats rather than cuts into your abdomen and it's very forgiving as a result.
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May. 5th, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
Whooo hoooo for aprons and knitting. The only bad thing I have discovered is that I can't set my needles in the "pocket" as well as my yarn. I always seem to lose a needle that way.
May. 5th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
I wasn't having too much trouble, but I was using size 2 steel needles, and they stayed put pretty well. The only thing was that I had to remeber to fold them flat, or else I became a very dangerous hedgehog...
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May. 5th, 2008 02:05 pm (UTC)
You know, it just occured to me that if I pointed a petticote to my Pflatzgrafin bodys, it would probably solve the rising problem I get with it. It's a little big on me and I keep having to push it down when I move from one position to another. I bet the added weight of a petticote would keep it in place. Hmm...
May. 5th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
Quite probably - the extra weight, especially a wool petticoat, will act like weights in curtains, I would think.

Heck, you can always unlace it, right? 8)
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May. 5th, 2008 02:05 pm (UTC)
Fetching! *two snaps up*

May. 5th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
Danke! :)
May. 5th, 2008 02:06 pm (UTC)
The pictures are fab-U-lous! As always you are great! The weekend sounds fantastic, sorry I missed it
May. 5th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you! It was fun - I don't know whether we'll be invited back (they tend to rotate their folk/historic display), but MS&W is worth it for the shopping alone.
May. 5th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC)
Awesome! I'm glad to see that the lacing technique worked so well. I'm planning on starting a new pair of bodies soon and I think I'll follow your suggestions. :)
May. 5th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
The key thing is the lacing in front - I've tried pointing before, but it always sagged in front, or got funny feeling because I tried to point it at the base of the front.
May. 5th, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
" chargirlgenius, I know you don't think so, but you are smokin' hot, "

I certainly think so. :)

I really didn't see anything wrong with the socks, and the mittens were very cute!
May. 5th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
I love the colors you chose for your mittens.

I wish I had been able to geek knitting with you, but I was learning that I don't like to do sprang in a demo situation. So far I've spent most of my knitting research energy on construction details. I think people who've spent more time on general period texts rather than knitting sources have the advantage of me when it comes to the economics of it all, but I'm not even sure what I need to read to catch up.

As far as patterns go, I like evilapprentice's theory on period knitting patterns. And there's always the pattern in Natura Exenterata(pdf). And here's my description of my 2nd pair of period stockings. I have changed from doing the heel flap decreases along the center to doing them at the edge based on examining the photo of the Duke Barnim stocking.
May. 5th, 2008 03:35 pm (UTC)
I am very proud of my mittens, seeing as, like the sock, they were my first, and I puzzled them out from the picture. :)

I'm sorry we didn't get to talk.
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May. 5th, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
interesting lacing thing...

we do the apron trick often enough with aprons or even our skirts for harvesting... instant bag! am too young to feel dated!
May. 5th, 2008 02:52 pm (UTC)
You're just observant - it (and variations of it) shows up in a bunch of pictures. :)
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May. 5th, 2008 02:50 pm (UTC)

I like the apron pocket, very practical. I've been (offhand-like) looking for something like that from the early 12th century. It'd be terribly useful, and not nearly as annoying as carrying a basket or bag. IMHO, that is.

Thanks for posting these pictures :-)
May. 5th, 2008 03:05 pm (UTC)

Sounds like loads of fun too. Love all the chat on garb too although to be perfectly honest considering that I'm in Pennsic OMG WHAT am I going to wear mode because garb is packed in store and I'll have to source a small wardrobe to travel light, I'm thanking the Saints my worries are all about drapes and one small bag for the plane!

But I have sourced a stunning Baroque pearl necklace for Court and a couple of handsome silk wraps.


Oh by the way, what do you want brought over from the Motherland?

May. 5th, 2008 03:08 pm (UTC)
Thank you, but don't worry about using up luggage space for me - I have some excellent sources here, since Annapolis is a bastion of ex-pat Britishers, and there are not one, bt two shops that stock English foods. :)
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